Navarro-Cornejo Case and Rape-Crisis Feminism

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  • In the photo: Deniece Cornejo’s very, very emotional interview despite the fact that she said in her very first media interview she didn’t need to cry to get public sympathy. Right after her Startalk interview, she’s seen smiling… 

As expected, intense drama followed after the release of The Fort condo CCTV footage that contradicted  TV host and actor Vhong Navarro’s accusers’ version of the controversial rape incident.

Investigators at the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) and keen observers said the CCTV footage that gained millions of views on YouTube seems to support Navarro’s version of events on the night of January 22. (See GMA News timeline below).

In my humble opinion, this prompted alleged rape victim Deniece Cornejo to put up a good show in order to fix things up. Several hours after the release of the CCTV footage, Cornejo appeared on GMA News, insisting the ABS-CBN talent raped her.

This time, a tearful Cornejo stood firm on her story, insisting she’s telling the truth. That was the first time the public saw Deniece shed tears.

On Sunday, February 2, Cornejo also appeared on showbiz-oriented talk show Startalk for an exclusive interview. Again, a tearful and emotional Cornejo urged Navarro to man up and to ‘be afraid of your second life’.

She also said she’s ready to bet on her life that she’s telling the truth. “Hindi ako natatakot. Mas ikinakatakot ko ang ikalawang buhay diyan sa impyerno,” she said.

Honestly, her tears and words failed to move me.

Based on online comments and YouTube likes and dislikes, Vhong Navarro won this episode big time and that Cornejo wasn’t that convincing at all.

Cornejo’s Startalk interview was all drama and appeal to pity.

When asked by TV host Heart Evangelista to comment on the CCTV footage and why she was seen grinning and laughing, Cornejo simply said she still didn’t see the video and then tried to evade the question by saying she was also a victim of theft.

Here’s a transcript of the conversation:

Heart: “Deniece, madaming kume-kwestyon sa ‘yo. Sabihin na nating noong nakita nila ang CCTV, noong sumakay ka sa elevator. You were seen smiling or was it laughing? What was behind that? Why, why… Ba’t ka nagkaron ng ganun na reaction?”

Deniece: “Una po sa lahat, hindi pa po namin napapanood, nagkakaron ng kopya yung sa CCTV. [Changes the topic] Kung tutuusin, nanakawan nga po ako after that incident. Hinihingi ko yung CCTV. Lahat ng pinaghirapan ko. Gusto kong malaman kung sinong kumuha dahil pangalawang beses na daw yun nangyari sa condo na yun. Ayaw pong ibigay sa akin. Kung nakikita po nilang panig-taas, panig-taas, Wala naman pong nakapagsasabi doon na may date at may time. Kaya pasensya na po. Hindi po ako makapangyarihan. Nasasaktan din po ako sa mga maling nakikita at mali ko po natatanggap.”

Obviously she’s not ready or willing to answer the question.

You be the judge.

We’re all aware that public sympathy is on Vhong Navarro. However, I think Corneo and his friends, Cedric Lee and his gang, found an ally in the country’s feminist movement.

For example, a feminist Interaksyon blogger claimed the “bashing of Deniece bares how Pinoys see women”, arguing “Cornejo has become a victim of massive vilification, the subject of everything from ridicule to wishes for her untimely demise.”

However, this feminist blogger failed to clarify whether these pinoys bashed Deniece because she’s a woman or because of what she did (e.g., she’s a liar and that she falsely accused someone of rape).

In my response to this feminist blogger, I said: “This issue is not about women versus men; it’s about the truth versus dishonesty.  The feminazis unfortunately cheapen women and rape with their misguided ideological beliefs. Rape is a legitimate crime that can be committed by both men and women. It should not be cheaply, wrongly used to harm or destroy anyone.”

One commenter told me that Deniece may be lying and that she may be “using her sexuality to lure and seduce men”, however, she has this big problem that no one is calling Vhong Navarro names.

Hilarious!

Here’s what this commenter, Mary Jane, said:

Yes, Deniece may be lying. Yes, Deniece may be using her sexuality to lure and seduce men. Yes, Deniece may be using her sexuality to benefit from men. For the sake of argument, let’s say these are all true.

But you cannot also deny the fact that Vhong, he confessed himself in his sworn statement, that he willfully went to Deniece’ condo. And willingly committed sexual acts with Deniece. He also admitted that he has a girlfriend. To put it bluntly, Vhong is a promiscuous and unfaithful man. These are all true. At hindi lng assumptions.

Now, how come no one is calling him names? No one calls him malandi? No one calls him slut? No one calls him makati? or whatever names you can throw at him. The media and the people are deliberately ignoring this information.
We do very well know that everything is all speculation yet the people are quick to judge Deniece. Calls her terrible names and such. Tapos si Vhong? COME ON.

Obviously, this feminist commenter also wants people to call Vhong names. I simply told her: Why not start your own feminist movement and start shaming men, too?

Here’s my interesting conversation with this feminist commenter. 

VINCENTON:

The blogger and some people forgot that one of the main issues is whether Deniece falsely accused Vhong of rape. They’re more interested in talking about how women are oppressed, etc.

They fail to see the difference between a real victim of abuse and a woman who’s using rape or her so-called womanhood to destroy someone. If the latter is virtuous for the feminists or some women here, then I think their absurd mentality cheapens women and real rape.

Lest we be accused of defending rapists and turning a blind eye on the plight of female rape victims (because men can be rape victims, too), I believe we need to explain that like men, women are capable of committing crimes, social wrongs and immorality as well.

Again, this should not be about men versus women, or whether women are victims of discrimination, domestic abuse, etc.

Let’s not poison this issue with misguided feminist views.

………

I don’t think that’s how majority of Filipinos view women. In all fairness, Filipinos respect women. You want an example of how a society regards women as inferior and worth half that of a man? Look at some Islamic countries. Saudi Arabia, Iran, etc. Yet very ironically, the Liberal feminists in the Western world turn a blind eye on the plight of women in these theocratic societies, which shows their hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

The problem with your mentality is that you’re taking a natural PUBLIC OUTRAGE as proof for your belief or hypothesis that “majority of the society still view women” in a negative way.

What’s wrong with calling a criminal “criminal”? What would you call NAPOLES then? Should we STOP CRITICIZING her because she’s a WOMAN?

What’s wrong with calling a real slut “SLUT”? What’s wrong with calling a career prostitute “prostitute”?

What the heck is wrong with calling a liar “LIAR”?

Can’t we call things by their name?

Enough with the political correctness.

Perhaps it’s more fun in the Philippines to call things and people by their name only if they’re MEN. Is that what you and the blogger are trying to imply?

COMMENTER (Mary Jane):

You can go look up Deniece Cornejo’s facebook page and read the recent comments there and you’ll know that the article is spot on. You read the comments and opinions of people on news websites or just simply read some of your friend’s statuses and you’ll know that the article is true. Yes, a lot of people, both men and women, vilify, shame, and demean Deniece. They call her names such as pokpok / whore / slut / prostitute / malandi and whatever demeaning and degrading insult you can think of. Now, I will not ignore the fact that there’s an ongoing case and based on what we see and read and hear on the media, some, if not most, of Deniece’ statements are questionable and for now, unproven. But that is not the issue here. That is not what the article is about. What the article is about is how people have judged and shamed Deniece, not as a “liar” (as most people think of), but as a woman.

(You can read her full response HERE).

VINCENTON: 

Look! I don’t GIVE A DAMN WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAID. I am not responsible for what those who posted on that FB page said. They do not represent me and others.

Nonetheless, thanks for proving my point that your rush to judgment was hilariously based on a handful comments by Facebookers on a Facebook page. That’s hilarious!

Yet these very few Facebookers who used the words “pokpok”, “slut”, “prostitute”, etc. DO NOT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. Is that what you think?

If that is what you need, you need to have your brain checked, PERIOD.

Here are TOUGH questions for you, feminazi:

1. So your proof is just a handful trolls and Facebook users expressing their public outrage on FB?

2. How many FB users are they?

3. What kind of name-calls do you think FIT your anti-women metrics? How many of them used anti-women or anti-feminist words?

4. Is this online sample good enough to back your and the blogger’s conclusion that the alleged bashing of Deniece “bares how pinoys see women”? Is your and the blogger’s charge AGAINST THE ENTIRE FILIPINO NATION BACKED BY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, STUDIES AND STATISTICS?

I need your answer. I’d like to know HOW YOU THINK and HOW YOU PROCESS thoughts, ideas and concepts.
Why are you so eager to connect these things to your feminist views?

Here are other questions you need to answer:

1. Do you think these Facebookers bashed Deniece because she’s a woman or because of what she did and that she’s a liar and a co-conspirator in a crime?

2. Is it OK for a woman to falsely accuse anyone of rape and destroy that person’s reputation, family and life? Plus, is it wrong or immoral or bad for people to criticize or condemn or bash that woman for using her womanhood and for falsely accusing someone?

These are the only issues here. I don’t give a damn about your flawed feminism and about what other people said and think. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS and enough with the Feminazi madness!

You’re simply proving feminism is indeed a mental disorder!

Here’s the commenter’s very interesting response:

1. So your proof is just a handful trolls and Facebook users expressing their public outrage on FB?

>> It is one of the proof. Handful? When they are everywhere? Even a legitimate opinion piece calling out on the absurdity of name-calling and slut-shaming is still peppered with people slut-shaming and name-calling her. Go on twitter. Go read your friend’s statuses. Of course, I will use facebook as an example as it is a platform for people to express their opinions. You are also one of the examples as well. Of men undermining the plight of women constantly being slut-shamed.

2. How many FB users are they?
>> Please see point above.

3. What kind of name-calls do you think FIT your anti-women metrics? How many of them used anti-women or anti-feminist words?

>> Let me get this straight. I don’t care if you call women sluts as long as the same is done to men. You want to call sexually liberated women sluts? Then call sexually liberated men sluts as well. Equal treatment. Equality.

If you haven’t noticed, the words slut/ malandi/ pokpok/ maharot/ makati – these are all adjectives geared towards women. What do you call a man who fits the description of a slut? What do you call a man who has multiple sexual partners? Do you slut-shame them? Vhong is a prime example of a man, who admitted on cheating on his girlfriend. Who engages in sexual acts with another girl other than his girlfriend and what do you call him? Go on his page and you will mostly see only messages of support. Why is that? Because you, as a guy, have the privilege of living in a patriarchal society. I am a feminist. That is why I am saying that if you’re going to vilify Deniece, then also vilify Vhong as well. SIMPLE AS THAT.

4. Is this online sample good enough to back your and the blogger’s conclusion that the alleged bashing of Deniece “bares how pinoys see women”? Is your and the blogger’s charge AGAINST THE ENTIRE FILIPINO NATION BACKED BY SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, STUDIES AND STATISTICS?

>> You do very well know that this “online sample” is a reflection of REAL LIFE prejudices of the people. Well, you are an example. And you can go around and ask your friends. Hell, you can listen to your parents. Let me give you an example. Pag ang lalaki may kabit, people don’t necessarily make a big deal out of it. Hell, they’re forgiven. And worse, some people will say, ganyan talaga mga lalaki. Now, if a woman has an affair, you know what she gets right? She will be slut-shamed. She will be called all sorts of names. You get the drift.

1. Do you think these Facebookers bashed Deniece because she’s a woman or because of what she did and that she’s a liar and a co-conspirator in a crime?

>> You don’t really get it, do you? The adjectives used to bash her are pertaining to her sexuality. She’s a liar? Then call her a liar! She’s a co-conspirator? Then call her that. Why the need to slut-shame her?

2. Is it OK for a woman to falsely accuse anyone of rape and destroy that person’s reputation, family and life? Plus, is it wrong or immoral or bad for people to criticize or condemn or bash that woman for using her womanhood and for falsely accusing someone?

>> First off, you do very well know that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. It is not your place to put judgment on her. Second, sino bang maysabi na ok yan? Come on. Don’t be silly. Ang kanina ko pa sinasabi, it is not ok to slut-shame women. Simple as that. And that is the gist of the article. Deniece was used as an example.

Let me tell you what is wrong and bad here:
1. Slut-shaming
2. The double standards – Deniece is a slut, Vhong is a what?

Yes, I am a feminist. And that means that if Deniece is guilty, I will push for a fair and just punishment – mapalalaki man o mapababae.

My response: HILARIOUS!

Lemme deal with your answers one by one.

1. ” It is one of the proof. Handful? When they are everywhere?”

Who are they? Do they represent the entire country or majority of Pinoys? Did you conduct your own surveys? Did you ask them: “DID YOU BASH DENIECE BECAUSE SHE’S A WOMAN OR BECAUSE OF WHAT SHE DID?”

2. “Please see point above.” — You have no point at all. You missed the fact that those very few people who SLUT-SHAMED Deniece bashed her because of what SHE DID and NOT BECAUSE SHE’S A WOMAN.

Do you understand that concept? Do you understand that VERY BASIC argument? Are Feminazis TOO DUMB and SLUTTISH not to understand the fact that sometimes, people bash a woman because of her flaws or what she did?

3. “I don’t care if you call women sluts as long as the same is done to men.” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That’s hilarious! A lot of people also called Vhong “RAPIST”, but did some men complain about it? Ganun pala ang pag-iisip mo. That’s so illogical and hilarious.

So, you’re saying the people should also call Vhong Navarro SLUT, BITCH, ETC? LMAO!

Then you said: “Then call sexually liberated men sluts as well. Equal treatment. Equality.” LMAO!!!

The problem is, these bashers didn’t do what Deniece did. Why not start your own feminist movement and start shaming men, too? Do it. LOL!

4. Thank you for admitting your charge against the entire Filipino nation is not backed by SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, STUDIES AND STATISTICS. ;-)

…………………..

Other answers…

1. I asked you: “Do you think these Facebookers bashed Deniece because she’s a woman or because of what she did and that she’s a liar and a co-conspirator in a crime?”

Your hilariously STUPID answer: “You don’t really get it, do you? The adjectives used to bash her are pertaining to her sexuality. She’s a liar? Then call her a liar! She’s a co-conspirator? Then call her that. Why the need to slut-shame her?”

Just answer the question: “Do you think these Facebookers bashed Deniece because she’s a woman or because of what she did and that she’s a liar and a co-conspirator in a crime?”

Why can’t you answer the question! A lot of women bashed Deniece, too! JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION. LOL!

2. I asked you: “Is it OK for a woman to falsely accuse anyone of rape and destroy that person’s reputation, family and life? Plus, is it wrong or immoral or bad for people to criticize or condemn or bash that woman for using her womanhood and for falsely accusing someone?”

Your hilariously stupid answer: ”First off, you do very well know that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. It is not your place to put judgment on her. Second, sino bang maysabi na ok yan? Come on. Don’t be silly. Ang kanina ko pa sinasabi, it is not ok to slut-shame women. Simple as that. And that is the gist of the article. Deniece was used as an example.”

Just answer the question. Who are you to stop people from speaking their minds and then shame and call them ANTI-WOMEN? Who the eff are you? LOL.

I also told the commenter the following:

By the way, are you familiar with the controversial Duke lacrosse case in the United States?

Lemme tell you something, because I see parallelism between how many Americans viewed the alleged victim, Crystal Mangum, and how many Pinoys now view Deniece.

During the trial or long before the verdict was pronounced, a lot of Americans who followed the case called Crystal names, like “slut”, “prostitute”, “gold digger”, etc. These are the same terms some pinoys used to describe Deniece. These pinoys based their JUDGMENT on the CCTV footage and on their objective interpretation of the case. Similarly, the Americans who bashed Crystal based their judgment on the evidence made available to the public, because the case, like the Vhong Navarro case, became a national controversy.

So, based on your hilarious, misguided Feminazi arguments, the Americans who BASHED Crystal Mangum were anti-women and the way they BASHED her show how they see women. In fact, those who bashed Crystal were not just called ANTI-WOMEN by the FEMINAZIS; they were also called RACIST, because the alleged “victim” was a black woman.

It turned out Crystal falsely accused the Duke Lacrosse players of rape to extort money from them.

Now, you cannot even tell me those Facebook BASHERS bashed Deniece because she’s a woman. Because that’s what you and the blogger are trying to imply here.

Did these people bash Deniece because she’s a women or because of what she did?

Thanks for proving that rape-crisis feminism is indeed a mental disorder.

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